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Post by Sollozzo on May 23, 2017 4:00:45 GMT
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Post by jayseek on May 23, 2017 16:21:19 GMT
I know I'm upended when...my 1st nonsensical reaction to Matt's quote was, 'What? 30 years a friend and that's it, calling him dark'? A minute later, totally misdirected, WTF, smack myself time.
It's entirely possible this followed no bout of depression or suicidal thinking whatsoever. More like, too many tranquilizers can leave someone physically capable of all sorts of shit with no real consciousness or intent.
Very fucked up, yeah. Shattering. Sickening. Disastrous.
That idea--not necessarily a long-suffering choice; maybe he just needed medical attention, ASAP--is overwhelming. I dearly hope there's something missing or inaccurate in the timeline as represented, otherwise the 40 minutes before security was called may be haunting.
I'm trying to take comfort in all the people having this conversation now, being candid about medical and mental health issues (as scary as it may feel). So hopefully the next person will see another doctor, ask for help sooner, or open their heart.
There's a gift in that, despite the fuck-awful circumstances.
Thanks a ton to everyone for sharing the links and music. The best medicine. Those Aussies carrying the chorus on Blow up the Outside World gave me a smile and a cry.
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Post by She Likes Surprises on May 23, 2017 16:53:24 GMT
I actually thought the same thing about Matt's comment. Dark was not a word that sat well with me either.
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Post by PROBABLY....MAYBE on May 23, 2017 19:53:30 GMT
Here is what I want to know:
Did CC usually travel with an exercise band and carabiner?
I travel with with an exercise band, but never a carabiner because I have no need to suspend anything heavy from it. If I want to do a lat pull down I just knot the middle and close the door jam on it. Maybe it was a carabiner key ring which is not designed for climbing. This question has been haunting me. If it was of the type used for climbing why did he take it on tour?
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Post by She Likes Surprises on May 23, 2017 21:59:01 GMT
That question went through my mind as well. But, honestly caribiners have many uses so I don't think we need to read too much into it.
I can only find conflicting info on suicide and Ativan. One article has many contradictions within the same article. Frustrating.
I don't think any evidence will tell us about his true state of mind. I am curious to know if this prescription was new or not.
Did anyone read the article that explained they ruled out murder because his 2 doors were locked from the inside and video surveillance shows no one entering after body guard left? Would also love to hear what he had to say about Chris's demeanor, slurred speech and any other details. He was the last person to see him.
I so wish he wasn't alone that night.
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Post by jayseek on May 24, 2017 11:52:51 GMT
I don't know if we'll hear much from the bodyguard, unless he spoke to police without an attorney or handler present. Given nondisclosure agreements.
I'm wondering who called 911, and when. Only the EMT's approximate arrival time is listed in the police report, or the leaked portion.
If that report is accurate, the fact that the bodyguard distributed Ativan stands out.
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Post by coconutbackwards on May 24, 2017 14:53:16 GMT
I read last night the room number he stayed in has been made public and the hotel has been getting flooded with requests to stay in the room. It's not open to the public right now.
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Post by val on May 24, 2017 18:36:01 GMT
I want to ask a few things
1) Above there's news on allegedly Matt's facebook. Is Matt on any social media? Never new any SG guys were on social BUT Chris.
2) Pretty weird things happening on Chris' mother in law twitter. Has anyone here commented on that?
3) What about Chris' mother and father? are they dead? why does Chris used to mention Toni (mother in law) as his actual MOTHER?
my head is pretty f* up
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Post by She Likes Surprises on May 24, 2017 20:42:50 GMT
Apparently, Toni, (Chris's mother in law) is expressing her unhappiness regarding Eddie Vedder. Apparently, he's not coming to the funeral and has not reached out to the family. Lilly is especially upset by this and Toni has had MUCH to say.
I'm not sure what Eddie has not officially commented. I'm not sure why he's not going to the funeral. Maybe he's angry or too upset or something else.
Odd...
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Post by She Likes Surprises on May 24, 2017 20:46:03 GMT
Matt had an Instagram but deleted all the pics a few months ago. Ben has one too, but inactive. Not sure about fb.
Chris has not mentioned his parents for awhile. They are both alive but not very present in Chris's life, especially once he married Vicky.
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Post by jayseek on May 25, 2017 1:54:58 GMT
Geez. If there's anything that should be personal, it's how you process grief. The idea of publicly judging a grieving person, it's unfathomable. If you have a personal relationship with someone and you're upset--ask them about it, personally. If you don't have a relationship with them...don't take their choices personally. Because you never, ever really know what another person is carrying.
For 30 seconds, MC's comment hit me wrong. Then I considered how raw HE must feel. He was probably in a room down the hall. It doesn't matter if I know how MC meant it. I hope he spoke for himself, his own truth. Is it any wonder why others might say nothing?
What's it like to be out on the road night and day with someone you've known most of your life and maybe find out this way he was on medication that put him in danger?
I bet everyone knows kind, compassionate people with utter horror of funerals. Loss isn't about PR; it's private.
Hopefully we're all lucky enough to know who our friends are, people who love and accept us. Even--and especially--when we're not awesome.
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Post by coconutbackwards on May 25, 2017 13:12:52 GMT
Geez. If there's anything that should be personal, it's how you process grief. The idea of publicly judging a grieving person, it's unfathomable. If you have a personal relationship with someone and you're upset--ask them about it, personally. If you don't have a relationship with them...don't take their choices personally. Because you never, ever really know what another person is carrying. For 30 seconds, MC's comment hit me wrong. Then I considered how raw HE must feel. He was probably in a room down the hall. It doesn't matter if I know how MC meant it. I hope he spoke for himself, his own truth. Is it any wonder why others might say nothing? What's it like to be out on the road night and day with someone you've known most of your life and maybe find out this way he was on medication that put him in danger? I bet everyone knows kind, compassionate people with utter horror of funerals. Loss isn't about PR; it's private. Hopefully we're all lucky enough to know who our friends are, people who love and accept us. Even--and especially--when we're not awesome. Agreed. No one needs to know whether or not Eddie Vedder goes to his funeral and what the reasons are if he doesn't. People handle grief differently.
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Post by bennis on May 25, 2017 13:29:04 GMT
its just so so sad that we will never truly know why he did it.
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Post by coconutbackwards on May 25, 2017 14:47:43 GMT
its just so so sad that we will never truly know why he did it. I don't think knowing why he did it would make it any less sad. It might make it worse.
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Post by bennis on May 25, 2017 19:06:28 GMT
Yes with so much to live for its a tragedy he felt suicide was the only way out....it's veryupsetting to think of what went through his mind at that time and distressing he couldn't just pick up the phone.
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